ARARAT. wrote:Митяй wrote:ARARAT. wrote:int21h wrote:ARARAT. wrote:Геноцид не определяется количеством, а определяется "качеством", т.е. того как именно убивали и кого...
Ну-с. Приведите нам примеры "качества" в данном случае?
Вы в игноре Interrupt... Идите лесом.
удобно устроились.
Но вы же ж в курсе, что
HRW таки нашел примеры геноцида? Осетины геноцидили грузин, при невмешательстве российской армии. Обратных примеров, почему-то, никто не приводит - все страшилки про задавленных танками детей и обезглавленных девушек оказались, как и предполагалось, пропагандистким враньем. So far грузин обвинили в недискриминационном применении силы - как, впрочем, и россиян.
В студию Митяй!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/world ... ia.html?hpMOSCOW — Human Rights Watch released a comprehensive report on Friday on the brief August war in Georgia, accusing both Russia and Georgia of using indiscriminate force on civilians.
It also said Russia had failed to prevent South Ossetian forces from carrying out “execution-style killings, rape, abductions and countless beatings.”Early in the war, Moscow accused Georgia of “genocide” and said 2,000 people had been killed in the shelling of Tskhinvali. In its report, Human Rights Watch rejects those claims as exaggerated, and calls on Russia to acknowledge the more recent assessments of 162 to 400 dead.
Much of the report is devoted to a meticulous description of Ossetian rampages in ethnic Georgian villages in South Ossetia, in which houses were systematically looted, set ablaze and bulldozed, sometimes as their inhabitants watched.
Human Rights Watch concluded that the militias’ intent was “to ethnically cleanse these villages” and that Russia as an occupying force was responsible for civilians’ safety.Russian forces “had full knowledge of what was going on,” said Anna Neistat, the organization’s senior emergencies researcher, at a news conference in Moscow. “I think they just didn’t care.”
The report was based on interviews with 460 victims and witnesses. Georgian officials cooperated with the effort. Russian officials did not respond to requests for information sent to the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of the Interior, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the president’s office, the report said.
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Criticism of the Georgian side focuses on the shelling of Tskhinvali, starting the night of Aug. 7. The report called the Georgian shelling “indiscriminate”
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The report characterizes some Russian air and artillery strikes as indiscriminate, saying that in some cases weapons struck half a mile away from military targets and even where no military target could be discerned. The report also found that Russia had used cluster bombs — something the authorities vehemently denied during the war. It said Russian forces were responsible for an attack on the main square in Gori on Aug. 12, killing six people, including a Dutch journalist.
Most vivid are accounts of the violence unleashed by South Ossetians after Russia had driven back the Georgian Army. The report documents 159 detentions of ethnic Georgian civilians, two rapes of ethnic Georgian women, the torture and execution of three prisoners of war and the razing of hundreds of houses.
Полный текст находится по адресу
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/ ... 109web.pdfА пристыдишь их - и сальцо найдется, и горилочка...
