Привет всем!
Не помню задавал ли я этот вопрос раньше или нет. С наступлением жары появилась необходимость перезарядить кондиционер на машине. В Штатах эти балончики в любом волмарте за 10 баксов лежат! В Канаде нигде не найдешь! Что за законы идиотские???? У кого не спросишь - No, you can't do that !!! Go to mechanic!!! Вот не могу понять: - это Канада такая отсталая страна что не продают балончики или какие-то супер эко -френдли законы??? Кто-нибудь в курсе?
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Вот нашел! Действительно эко-френдли laws!!!
You can recharge your a/c if you can get your hands on the correct type of refrigerant required for your vehicle. But that is now a major problem for do-it-yourselfers because federal law prohibits the sale of R12 and R134 automotive refrigerants to "noncertified" individuals (to become certified, you must pass a written test approved by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) -- something which all professional A/C technicians must do before they can legally work on your vehicle). This rule has been in effect since November 1992.
The law was passed to discourage people from recharging leaky A/C systems. R12 refrigerant, which is used in all vehicles built prior to 1993, is an ozone-depleting chemical. So its sale and use is strictly regulated by the EPA. What's more, production of R12 ends December 31, 1995. After that date, the only R12 that will be available will be that which has already been stockpiled or can be recovered and recycled from existing A/C systems. As the supply dwindles, motorists will be forced to have their A/C systems converted to the new "ozone-safe" R134a refrigerant (a job which may require replacing hoses and other parts depending on the application and model year).
Until late 1994, anyone could still buy refrigerant in large bulk containers. Because of the high cost of such containers, the EPA thought few do-it-yourselfers would buy refrigerant in bulk. But even that loophole has now been plugged. So unless you're a certified professional technician, you can't buy automotive refrigerant period.
А ТЕПЕРЬ ЕЩЕ И В КАЛИФОРНИИ ЗАПРЕТЯТ ПРОДАЖУ!!!
Mobile Air Conditioning
The first public workshop in California to discuss the reduction of the high global warming refrigerant HFC-134a in car air conditioning focused mainly on the ban of do-it-yourself servicing. However, the workshop on 5 February also addressed other strategies to mitigate the environmental impact of Mobile Air Conditioning (MAC), including the future phase-out of HFC-134a and its replacement with low-GWP refrigerants, such as R744 (CO2). The workshop showed that California is set to limit the use of HFC-134a in a "cradle-to-grave approach", taking into account the complete environmental impact during a car’s life cycle.
More specifically, stakeholders discussed the following:
New MAC refrigerants: CARB staff insisted on a future phase-out of R134a in all vehicle types, including light-duty, heavy-duty, on-road, and off-road vehicles, thus aligning its strategies with the international push towards low-GWP refrigerants, such as the EU MAC Directive. In particular, CARB mentioned the decision of German carmakers for R744 (CO2) as a way to comply with upcoming European legislation. As a final step, a Board Hearing in 2010 will decide about new MAC refrigerant measures.
HFC-134a small can ban: California will eliminate Do-it-yourself practice for MAC to allow only for professional servicing. It estimates that today 1/3 of the content of cans filled with R134a is released through unprofessional refilling of MAC systems which amounts to 0.85 million tonnes CO2 equivalents. The future ban will increase the cost of servicing for drivers substantially, according to CARB. “Cradle-to-grave” approach: CARB will restrict the use of HFC-134a during all life phases, starting with greenhouse gas emission standards for new vehicles that will account for all direct and indirect emissions from MAC. During use, HFC-134a will be subject to leak check and repair requirements, while strict end-of-life rules will make the disposal of R134a MAC and the refrigerant recovery mandatory. By the end of 2008, the first research phase regarding recovery strategies for HFC-134a will be finalized, with a view to discuss it further in 2009.
You can recharge your a/c if you can get your hands on the correct type of refrigerant required for your vehicle. But that is now a major problem for do-it-yourselfers because federal law prohibits the sale of R12 and R134 automotive refrigerants to "noncertified" individuals (to become certified, you must pass a written test approved by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) -- something which all professional A/C technicians must do before they can legally work on your vehicle). This rule has been in effect since November 1992.
The law was passed to discourage people from recharging leaky A/C systems. R12 refrigerant, which is used in all vehicles built prior to 1993, is an ozone-depleting chemical. So its sale and use is strictly regulated by the EPA. What's more, production of R12 ends December 31, 1995. After that date, the only R12 that will be available will be that which has already been stockpiled or can be recovered and recycled from existing A/C systems. As the supply dwindles, motorists will be forced to have their A/C systems converted to the new "ozone-safe" R134a refrigerant (a job which may require replacing hoses and other parts depending on the application and model year).
Until late 1994, anyone could still buy refrigerant in large bulk containers. Because of the high cost of such containers, the EPA thought few do-it-yourselfers would buy refrigerant in bulk. But even that loophole has now been plugged. So unless you're a certified professional technician, you can't buy automotive refrigerant period.
А ТЕПЕРЬ ЕЩЕ И В КАЛИФОРНИИ ЗАПРЕТЯТ ПРОДАЖУ!!!
Mobile Air Conditioning
The first public workshop in California to discuss the reduction of the high global warming refrigerant HFC-134a in car air conditioning focused mainly on the ban of do-it-yourself servicing. However, the workshop on 5 February also addressed other strategies to mitigate the environmental impact of Mobile Air Conditioning (MAC), including the future phase-out of HFC-134a and its replacement with low-GWP refrigerants, such as R744 (CO2). The workshop showed that California is set to limit the use of HFC-134a in a "cradle-to-grave approach", taking into account the complete environmental impact during a car’s life cycle.
More specifically, stakeholders discussed the following:
New MAC refrigerants: CARB staff insisted on a future phase-out of R134a in all vehicle types, including light-duty, heavy-duty, on-road, and off-road vehicles, thus aligning its strategies with the international push towards low-GWP refrigerants, such as the EU MAC Directive. In particular, CARB mentioned the decision of German carmakers for R744 (CO2) as a way to comply with upcoming European legislation. As a final step, a Board Hearing in 2010 will decide about new MAC refrigerant measures.
HFC-134a small can ban: California will eliminate Do-it-yourself practice for MAC to allow only for professional servicing. It estimates that today 1/3 of the content of cans filled with R134a is released through unprofessional refilling of MAC systems which amounts to 0.85 million tonnes CO2 equivalents. The future ban will increase the cost of servicing for drivers substantially, according to CARB. “Cradle-to-grave” approach: CARB will restrict the use of HFC-134a during all life phases, starting with greenhouse gas emission standards for new vehicles that will account for all direct and indirect emissions from MAC. During use, HFC-134a will be subject to leak check and repair requirements, while strict end-of-life rules will make the disposal of R134a MAC and the refrigerant recovery mandatory. By the end of 2008, the first research phase regarding recovery strategies for HFC-134a will be finalized, with a view to discuss it further in 2009.
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Vasiliy wrote:Я боюсь таможня отнимет!!!
Съездите на Ниагару полюбоваться. Переехайте через мост Рейнбоу и в ближайшем американским Волмарте купите этот баллончик.
А таможеннику ничего не говорите - пусть в багажнике валяется (с смысле - баллончик, а не таможенник .
Или, как вариант, в Канадской Шине сейчас компания - продают комплект для заправки каким-то новым хладагентом - типа экологичски безопасным. Выглядит также - баллончик, шланг, манометр.
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Далековато как-то из Альберты на Ниагару!!!
Да и меня туда никто и не пустит без американской визы!
Я узнавал насчет других хладагентов. Чтобы там не писали на балончиках - они не совместимы с R134a - во-первых чтобы им пользоваться - надо полностью выкачать R134a из системы, а это можно сделать только в профессиональном шопе. Во-вторых можно испортить систему - она начнет течь, так как не предусмотрена для работы с другими газами.
Вообщем придется платить 100 каксов вместо 10-20 в штатах.
Я думаю что после того как Калифорния забанит, ее примеру последуют все остальные штаты, так что и в Америке скоро будет тоже самое.
Да и меня туда никто и не пустит без американской визы!
Я узнавал насчет других хладагентов. Чтобы там не писали на балончиках - они не совместимы с R134a - во-первых чтобы им пользоваться - надо полностью выкачать R134a из системы, а это можно сделать только в профессиональном шопе. Во-вторых можно испортить систему - она начнет течь, так как не предусмотрена для работы с другими газами.
Вообщем придется платить 100 каксов вместо 10-20 в штатах.
Я думаю что после того как Калифорния забанит, ее примеру последуют все остальные штаты, так что и в Америке скоро будет тоже самое.
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