dmitris wrote:SK1901 wrote:Фирма может сделать вам визу O-1. Для нее выполнять двухлетнее условие не нужно.
for O, I'm not that extraordinary
SK1901 wrote:dmitris wrote:У меня такая ситуация: J1 в 93-м, govt. financing. 94-01 - учился и делал practical training. Waiver no-objection отказали, поэтому уехал в третью страну, в России был суммарно месяцев 6. А сейчас фирма зовет назад в Штаты...
Вопрос к тем, кто делал визы после отсидки в России - как проходит процесс доказательства - консул в посольстве говорит: "Предьявите подтверждение двух лет в России"? Насколько тщательно смотрят на время вне России?
Фирма может сделать вам визу O-1. Для нее выполнять двухлетнее условие не нужно.
yelenna wrote:Для получения О визы необязательно быть особо одарённым.
Просто сама по себе О виза не заменяет waiver.
Два врача из моей резидентуры по окончании не успели получить waiver, их держали на кафедре в качестве attending physicians по О визе в течение полутора лет. За ето время им удалось найти работу in health shortage area и получить waiver.
SK1901 wrote:Вот именно об этом я и говорю. Одно из преимуществ визы O-1 в том, что по ней можно работать не только полтора года, а хоть 10 или 20 лет, ограничений нет. За это время можно получить waiver, причем разными способами. Например, родить ребенка и получить waiver through extreme hardship. Наконец, можно просто "досидеть" до положенного двухлетнего минимума в отпусках.
SK1901 wrote:VI wrote:А вот здесь можно поподробнее? Насколько О-1 удобнее чем Н-1?
Спасибо.
V.I.
Какие конкретно подробности вас интересуют? Если у вас не выполнено двухлетнее условие, то получить H-1B вы просто не сможете, а O-1 сможете.
(e) No person admitted under section 101(a)(15)(J) or acquiring such status after admission (i) whose participation in the program for which he came to the United States was financed in whole or in part, directly or indirectly, by an agency of the Government of the United States or by the government of the country of his nationality or his last residence, (ii) who at the time of admission or acquisition of status under section 101(a)(15)(J) was a national or resident of a country which the Director of the United States Information Agency pursuant to regulations prescribed by him, had designated as clearly requiring the services of persons engaged in the field of specialized knowledge or skill in which the alien was engaged, or (iii) who came to the United States or acquired such status in order to receive graduate medical education or training, shall be eligible to apply for an immigrant visa, or for permanent residence, or for a nonimmigrant visa under section 101(a)(15)(H) or section 101(a)(15)(L) until it is established that such person has resided and been physically present in the country of his nationality or his last residence for an aggregate of a least two years following departure from the United States: Provided, That upon the favorable recommendation of the Director, pursuant to the request of an interested United States Government agency (or, in the case of an alien described in clause (iii), pursuant to the request of a State Department of Public Health, or its equivalent), or of the Commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization after he has determined that departure from the United States would impose exceptional hardship upon the alien's spouse or child (if such spouse or child is a citizen of the United States or a lawfully resident alien), or that the alien cannot return to the country of his nationality or last residence because he would be subject to persecution on account of race, religion, or political opinion, the Attorney General may waive the requirement of such two-year foreign residence abroad in the case of any alien whose admission to the United States is found by the Attorney General to be in the public interest except that in the case of a waiver requested by a State Department of Public Health, or its equivalent, or in the case of a waiver requested by an interested United States government agency on behalf of an alien described in clause (iii), the waiver shall be subject to the requirements of section 214(l) 22aaa/ : And provided further, That, except in the case of an alien described in clause (iii), the Attorney General may, upon the favorable recommendation of the Director, waive such two-year foreign residence requirement in any case in which the foreign country of the alien's nationality or last residence has furnished the Director a statement in writing that it has no objection to such waiver in the case of such alien.
9 FAM 40.202 N1 Aliens Subject to INA 212(e)
(TL:VISA-155; 10-18-1996)
a. Certain J-1 exchange visitors are subject to the 2-year home
country residence and physical presence requirement of INA 212(e). These
exchange visitors must reside and be physically present in their country of
nationality or last place of residence abroad for an aggregate of at least two
years following departure from the United States. These exchange visitors
are not allowed to change their nonimmigrant status or be admitted to the
United States under the H or L nonimmigrant category, or acquire
permanent residence status until they have complied with the foreign
residency requirement.
9 FAM 40.202 N1.1 Two-Year Residence Abroad or Waiver
Requirement
(TL:VISA-1; 08-30-1987)
A former exchange visitor who is subject to the requirements of INA
212(e) and who applies for an immigrant visa or for an H, K, or L
nonimmigrant visa must fulfill the 2-year foreign residence requirement or
receive a waiver of that requirement before a visa application may be
considered. [See 9 FAM 41.81 N7 for applicability of INA 212(e) to K visa
applicants.]
General Counsel Opinions
On May 9, 2000, AILA and the Department of State had a liaison meeting. This was one of the questions on the agenda:
AILA thought it was settled law that, when a J-1 has satisfied the two year residency requirement, the J-2 dependent is no longer subject to the two year residency requirement even if the J-2 dependent has not individually satisfied the two year home residency requirement. U.S. Information Agency's ("USIA") General Counsel had confirmed this position several times in the past. It appears that DOS is taking a contrary position in citing FAM 40.202 note 3, which we do not believe is on point. AILA would request clarification and confirmation that: (a) once the J-1 satisfies the 2 year home residency requirement, the J-2 is no longer subject to the two year foreign residency requirement; and (b) instructions will be sent to the field explaining this result.
The State Department responded:
VO has concluded that individuals who come to the United States in J-2 status are subject to the same requirement as the J-1, and are obligated to satisfy the two-year foreign residence requirement even when the principal J-1 has already fulfilled the obligation. VO invites AILA to provide the cited opinion of the former USIA general counsel's office together with any other legal sources in support of AILA's position.
How does this question arise? Suppose that a J-1 exchange visitor who is subject to § 212(e) returns to his country of nationality for two years, leaving his J-2 wife behind. She gets accepted into a university, picks up an F-1 visa, and while he's home fulfilling the requirement, she's here studying. Two years later her husband returns on an H-1B visa, and with her studies complete, she would like to change her status to H-1B as well. Any problem with this?
This question was asked of the INS in September 1989, and the answer was quite reasonable. Since a J-2 nonimmigrant is subject to the foreign residence requirement only because the J-1 is so subject, "it is reasonable to conclude that in fulfilling the…requirement, a J-1 principal has effectively conferred the same status to the J-2 spouse or dependent child….Thus, a J-2 spouse…should be considered to have fulfilled the two year home residence requirement if the J-1 principal has done so."
kz wrote:Спасибо, буду дальше узнавать. Это настолько узкая тема что многие адвокаты про нее мало что знают. Вообше, в чем смысл или выгода государству от существования этого 212(е) мне не понятно. Сенаторы/конгрессмены которые это выдумывали сами наверное не знают.
kz wrote:Nichego doslovno ne govoritsia o "no person admitted under section (J) in the past and currently under another non-immigrant status other than (H) or (L)", to est' mozhno zakon poniat kak otnosiashiisia tolko k tem kto currently are in J-1 status.
kz wrote: Вообше, в чем смысл или выгода государству от существования этого 212(е) мне не понятно.
Vestalka wrote: а одна подруга даже грин кард.
Vestalka wrote:Инна, подруга на этот вопрос ответила НЕТ. Пошла на риск, и выиграла. Причем, на интервью ее прямо спросили, была ли у нее J visa, и она смело глядя в глаза ИНС офицера, сказала НЕТ. Конечно, это вариант не для всех, многие не захотят говорить неправду, или просто побоятся.
. Боятся, но отмечают, получают GC и трясутся потом всю жизнь. Хорошо, если не поймают, а если поймают позже, когда на гражданство подадут? Когда уже и дети есть?
Поживем, увидим.