Moore's 'Fahrenheit 9/11' wins Cannes award

MaxSt · Post by **MaxSt** » 23 Jun 2004 04:34

theukrainian wrote:"Unfairenheit 9/11: The lies of Michael Moore. By Christopher Hitchens"
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/fr/rss/

All rant, no substance.

A film that bases itself on a big lie...

What big lie?

MaxSt.

Capricorn · Post by **Capricorn** » 23 Jun 2004 04:43

MaxSt wrote:
theukrainian wrote:"Unfairenheit 9/11: The lies of Michael Moore. By Christopher Hitchens"
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/fr/rss/

All rant, no substance.

MaxSt.

Well...

President Bush is accused of taking too many lazy vacations. (What is that about, by the way? Isn't he supposed to be an unceasing planner for future aggressive wars?) But the shot of him "relaxing at Camp David" shows him side by side with Tony Blair. I say "shows," even though this photograph is on-screen so briefly that if you sneeze or blink, you won't recognize the other figure. A meeting with the prime minister of the United Kingdom, or at least with this prime minister, is not a goof-off.

MaxSt · Post by **MaxSt** » 23 Jun 2004 05:37

Длинные отпуска Буша - широко известный факт. Мур этот факт использовал в фильме.

Где тут "The lies of ..."? Lies - слишком громкое слово, чтоб им так легко разбрасываться.

MaxSt.

Capricorn · Post by **Capricorn** » 23 Jun 2004 05:49

MaxSt wrote:Длинные отпуска Буша - широко известный факт. Мур этот факт использовал в фильме.
Где тут "Тхе лиес оф ..."? Лиес - слишком громкое слово, чтоб им так легко разбрасываться.

МахСт.

Я ето слово вообше не использовал. А как Moore определяет слово "отпуск" ? Остуствие в Белом Доме?
Если мои начальник говорит мне : воз'ми a day off, посиди в парке, почитаи статью и на следующии день приходи с решением . Етo отпуск?
By the way, an interesting info

According to an August 2003 article in the Washington Post , President Bush has spent all or part of 166 days during his presidency at his Crawford, Texas, ranch or en route. Add the time spent at or en route to the presidential retreat of Camp David and at the Bush family estate in Kennebunkport, Maine, and Bush has taken 250 days off as of August 2003. That's 27% of his presidency spent on vacation. Although to be fair, much of this time is classified as a "working vacation."

Bush isn't the first president to get away from his work. George Bush Sr. took all or part of 543 vacation days at Camp David and in Kennebunkport. Ronald Reagan spent 335 days at or en route to his Santa Barbara, California, ranch during his eight years in office. Of recent presidents, Jimmy Carter took the least days off -- only 79 days, which he usually spent at his home in Georgia

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MaxSt · Post by **MaxSt** » 23 Jun 2004 05:58

Capricorn wrote:Я ето слово вообше не использовал.

Оно в заголовке статьи.
Содержимое же статьи громкому заголовку не соответствует - длинный занудный rant.

MaxSt.

ts · Post by ts » 23 Jun 2004 15:05

Еще одна точка зрения. Читать намного легче, ИМХО.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/20/movies/20SHEN.html?ei=5062&en=05f2b88c69444954&ex=1088308800&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=all&position=

After a year spent covering the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, I was recently allowed to attend a Hollywood screening. Based on that single viewing, and after separating out what is clearly presented as Mr. Moore's opinion from what is stated as fact, it seems safe to say that central assertions of fact in "Fahrenheit 9/11" are supported by the public record (indeed, many of them will be familiar to those who have closely followed Mr. Bush's political career).