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CBI wrote:While I take a look at the dictionary, you please take a look at the history:
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That's cool, dude! You did a great copy-paste job! However, there is nothing related to fascists in your qoute. ..

Да, забавныи список. .мы уже обсуждали его .. :wink:
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machineHead wrote:
However, there is nothing related to fascists in your qoute.


Are you sure?

"Militarism means a domination of the military man over the civilian, an undue emphasis on military needs, policies, spirit, values and ideals. . .
"Militariness means a readiness to defend one's country's interests by force of arms, the acceptance of the military profession as honourable and necessary. Only a complete pacifist could validly condemn militariness. Others, aware that wars are facts of life, however unpleasant, would agree that every nation has to cultivate some militariness."


Peter Phillips. The Tragedy of Nazi Germany



"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes. And armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended. Its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war . . . and in the degeneracy of manners and morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."

James Madison, April 20, 1795
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CBI wrote:
machineHead wrote:
However, there is nothing related to fascists in your qoute.


Are you sure?

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Absolutely... :wink:
Размер букв не является убедительным доказательством..

Неужели освобождение Германии от фашизмa - есть фашизм? :roll:
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CBI: FUI, Russian Empire between 1700 - 1900 hardly had 10-15 years of peace, all other times it been at war. Most of those wars were expansion wars. Can you call Russian Empire fascist state?
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machineHead wrote:CBI: FUI, Russian Empire between 1700 - 1900 hardly had 10-15 years of peace, all other times it been at war. Most of those wars were expansion wars. Can you call Russian Empire fascist state?


Меня заботит фашизм в настоящем. В 1700 - 1900 термин фашизм не получил широгоко распространения. Это явление новейшей истории.
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Capricorn wrote:Неужели освобождение Германии от фашизмa - есть фашизм? :roll:


Фашизм был в Италии. В Германии был национал-социализм.
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CBI wrote:Меня заботит фашизм в настоящем. В 1700 - 1900 термин фашизм не получил широгоко распространения. Это явление новейшей истории.

А списочек привели из "далекого" прошлого, да еше Los Angeles туда попал почему-то.. :mrgreen:
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CBI wrote:Меня заботит фашизм в настоящем. В 1700 - 1900 термин фашизм не получил широгоко распространения. Это явление новейшей истории.

А списочек привели из "далекого" прошлого, да еше Los Angeles туда попал почему-то.. :mrgreen:


Список в основном за двадцатый век и конец девятнадцатого. То есть новейшая история.
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CBI wrote:Список в основном за двадцатый век и конец девятнадцатого. То есть новейшая история.

Ну ясень день, 1941-1945 .... :roll:
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Dealing With The F-Word
A Book Review by Stephen Gowans
March 25, 2002

David McGowan, Understanding the F-Word: American Fascism and the Politics of Illusion

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CBI wrote:Список в основном за двадцатый век и конец девятнадцатого. То есть новейшая история.

Ну ясень день, 1941-1945 .... :roll:



When the Spanish fascist General Franco, enlisting the aid of Hitler and Mussolini, initiated a civil war that would eventually see the Republican government of Spain fall, the United States not only stood by, it prohibited American citizens from helping the Republican cause. Why would an apparently democratic, presumably antifascist country, prevent its citizens from fighting fascism and restoring democracy?

Flush with success in Spain, European fascism struck again. Mussolini bombed desperately poor Ethiopia. And not to be outdone (by far), Nazi Germany invaded more than a dozen European countries, establishing a front with the Soviet Union, whose destruction the Nazis desperately sought. Washington still did nothing.

In June 1941, the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, launching a campaign that would eventually cost the Soviets eight to 12 million men and usher 16 million Soviet civilians into an early grave. And still, the United States did nothing.

Instead, as the Nazis pushed into the Soviet Union, Washington watched, and US businesses, among them, the Wall Street powerhouse Brown Brothers/Harriman, profited. The firm, two of whose principals were Prescott Bush and Herbert Walker, great-grandfather and grandfather of President George W. Bush, eventually had its assets seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act, when Washington finally got around to deciding Nazi Germany was an enemy (on paper, anyway.)

The Bush family, by the way, has curious connections. Apart from its wartime links to the German Nazi government, the Bushs are also linked to the family of John Hinckley, the man who tried to assassinate former President Ronald Reagan. Had Hinckley been successful, George H.W. Bush, the vice-president at the time, would have moved into the Oval Office. Hinckley's family had made large contributions to Bush's political campaigns. On the day John tried to transform himself into a latter day John Wilkes Booth, Neil Bush, brother of George W., and campaign manager for George W.'s failed congressional bid, was scheduled to dine with Scott Hinckley, John's brother. George W. told the press, "It's certainly conceivable that I met (John Hinckley) or might have been introduced to him." By itself, the connection means nothing, but it is fishy, to say the least. Fishier still is the Bush's connections with the bin Laden family. It's certainly conceivable that John Hinckley isn't the only Bush family friend George W. met, or might have been introduced to.

By December, 1941, six months after the Nazis had overrun much of Europe and launched their Soviet campaign, the Soviet's had rallied, and counterattacked. On Dec. 6th, the counterattack began. On Dec. 7th, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour, plunging the United States into war in the Pacific.

Formally, US involvement in the war in Europe came a few days later -- but only after the Nazis declared war first.

Still, despite the United States formal commitment to war in Europe, American forces were to undertake no significant action in Europe until D-Day, June 6, 1944, at which point the defeat of Germany by Soviet forces was all but inevitable. The US had tarried, watching as Nazi Germany plundered the Soviet Union and entered the war in a significant way only when it seemed clear resurgent Soviet forces would crush the Nazis and take most of Europe.

After Berlin fell, the US took over where the Nazis had left off, salvaging assets from the ruins of what the Nazis left behind, to continue the fight against Communism. Washington quickly allied itself with Germany, Italy and Spain, subordinating those parts of Europe the Soviets couldn't control, while scouring the ranks of the defeated Nazis for engineers, technicians, scientists and intelligence experts. They would be pressed into service on Washington's payroll to do what they had been doing for Hitler -- fighting Communism.



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CBI wrote:
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CBI wrote:Список в основном за двадцатый век и конец девятнадцатого. То есть новейшая история.

Ну ясень день, 1941-1945 .... :roll:


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The Bush family, by the way, has curious connections....

Так ето Bush family во всем виноваты? 8O
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The Bush family, by the way, has curious connections....

Так ето Bush family во всем виноваты? 8O


Так эта тема вообще про Буша, у которого рейтинг падает :D
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Capricorn wrote:
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The Bush family, by the way, has curious connections....

Так ето Bush family во всем виноваты? 8O


Так эта тема вообще про Буша, у которого рейтинг падает :D

Так причем тут фашизм? :wink: :pain1:
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Capricorn wrote:
CBI wrote:
Capricorn wrote:
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The Bush family, by the way, has curious connections....

Так ето Bush family во всем виноваты? 8O


Так эта тема вообще про Буша, у которого рейтинг падает :D

Так причем тут фашизм? :wink: :pain1:


Фашизм перестает быть популярным в Америке? :pain1: :)
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