Balder wrote:Ok. sterhus, let's imagine that you got a really good job offer from China (let's say executive position with $500k/year) and you moved to China. Will you consider China as "the greatest, freest, and most decent society in existence, an oasis of goodness in a desert of cynicism and barbarism"?
This one is easy. I'd never accepted such an offer. Mainly because I do not consider China a disent country to live in, and the same goes for a lot of other countries, inlcluding Russia. This is, of cause, my personal opinion, but most of desisions in my life I make based on my personal opinion.
sterhus wrote:Ключевым пунтом является то, что человек сам выбирает, куда ему ехать.
Ok. sterhus, let's imagine that you got a really good job offer from China (let's say executive position with $500k/year) and you moved to China. Will you consider China as "the greatest, freest, and most decent society in existence, an oasis of goodness in a desert of cynicism and barbarism"?
Money is the only criterion for you???
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Beseder wrote: . Однако, машину и дом и еду и билеты человек тоже сам себе выбирает. И если Вы выбираете не "greatest", то не мазохист ли Вы?
Нет. Человек выбирает себе профессию. Средний уровень оплаты в уже выбранной профессии от него не зависит.
It means you have to choose the most paid profession, otherwise you are insane or a masohist ....
It cannot be excuse. Or or could be... for masohist
ONLY if your ONLY criterion is money.
Otherwise your logic does not work.
You know, people choose countries and professions not only by this criterion.
This one is easy. I'd never accepted such an offer. Mainly because I do not consider China a disent country to live in
Wouldn't you? So if we raise the bar to 2 million/year, doesn't it make China a little more disent country? Come on, do not lie to yourself. If you've lived in America, you will not resist the offer.[/b]
HomeZombi wrote:Wouldn't you? So if we raise the bar to 2 million/year, doesn't it make China a little more disent country? Come on, do not lie to yourself. If you've lived in America, you will not resist the offer.[/b]
За $2 mil/year - поеду без семьи на один год, потому как после этого я смогу уже не работать, если мне так захочется (по моим подсчетам для этого требуется $1.5 mil). Моего мнения о Китае это не изменит. В отличие от меня, мое мнение не продается.
HomeZombi wrote:Wouldn't you? So if we raise the bar to 2 million/year, doesn't it make China a little more disent country? Come on, do not lie to yourself. If you've lived in America, you will not resist the offer.[/b]
За $2 mil/year - поеду без семьи на один год, потому как после этого я смогу уже не работать, если мне так захочется (по моим подсчетам для этого требуется $1.5 mil). Моего мнения о Китае это не изменит.
А, так речь не идет о ехать туда жить? Тогда на год съезжу - если у меня будет при этом американское гражданство.
HomeZombi wrote:Wouldn't you? So if we raise the bar to 2 million/year, doesn't it make China a little more disent country? Come on, do not lie to yourself. If you've lived in America, you will not resist the offer.[/b]
За $2 mil/year - поеду без семьи на один год, потому как после этого я смогу уже не работать, если мне так захочется (по моим подсчетам для этого требуется $1.5 mil). Моего мнения о Китае это не изменит.
А, так речь не идет о ехать туда жить? Тогда на год съезжу - если у меня будет при этом американское гражданство.
Hold on. You just told us that you would never accepted such offer.
sterhus wrote:
В отличие от меня, мое мнение не продается.
Отлично сказано
Yeah. I agree. But why you do not respect our opinion and consider us as masohists?
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HomeZombi wrote:Wouldn't you? So if we raise the bar to 2 million/year, doesn't it make China a little more disent country? Come on, do not lie to yourself. If you've lived in America, you will not resist the offer.[/b]
За $2 mil/year - поеду без семьи на один год, потому как после этого я смогу уже не работать, если мне так захочется (по моим подсчетам для этого требуется $1.5 mil). Моего мнения о Китае это не изменит. В отличие от меня, мое мнение не продается.
Ok. Let's imagine: you lost your job in the middle of recession. You have to pay mortgages, loans, support family, etc. You have $100k/year offer from China Telecom. Will you accept the offer? Alternative: to loose you house, for instance.
sterhus wrote:ONLY if your ONLY criterion is money. Otherwise your logic does not work. You know, people choose countries and professions not only by this criterion.
I have chosen America (may be temporally) ONLY because of money. And you?
sterhus wrote:ONLY if your ONLY criterion is money. Otherwise your logic does not work. You know, people choose countries and professions not only by this criterion.
I have chosen America (may be temporally) ONLY because of money. And you?
And I have not.
But you have to decide is it temporally or not.
If it is not temporally and only for money...
I am sorry for you one more time.
sterhus wrote:ONLY if your ONLY criterion is money. Otherwise your logic does not work. You know, people choose countries and professions not only by this criterion.
I have chosen America (may be temporally) ONLY because of money. And you?
And I have not. But you have to decide is it temporally or not. If it is not temporally and only for money... I am sorry for you one more time.
