Спекуляция Деривативами - Trade Ideas !!!

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ie wrote: 06 Jul 2017 21:19 ну что знатоки.. входим в крутое пике или нет еще? :kofe:
:pain1: hope not
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venumpro wrote: 06 Jul 2017 22:14
ie wrote: 06 Jul 2017 21:19 ну что знатоки.. входим в крутое пике или нет еще? :kofe:
:pain1: hope not
not ready?
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I am not positioned for crash. If it happens, I will be either unchanged or up/down 5%. The profits from short delta will be offset by losses from short premium.

Crashes are bad for business. Last time we crashed, bid/ask differential in SPY options (the most liquid stock in the world) was 1 dollar.

I'd prefer rally, sideways or drifting lower markets with volatility around 20.
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Beretta wrote: 06 Jul 2017 16:34 also sold /6E 1.135 puts
А почему-бы вместо это не купить сам /6E ? Options on stock я понимаю. А вот options on futures ? Это для leverage on leverage или для чего ?
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Beretta wrote: 06 Jul 2017 16:49
Beretta wrote: 06 Jul 2017 16:29

bought /CC (cacao) @ 1897

..and took it off 26 point higher - all in 31 min and 9 seconds :gen1: :gen1: :gen1:
Home run ! Touchdown ! ;)
P.S. Lucky you !
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Back to oil. Sold Aug 33/30 XOP strangle @ 1.64.
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Sold July TSLA 342.5/347.5 - 280/270 IC @ 1.73 credit.
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Placed /ES sell order above the market @ 2,425. Just a day trade. Want to scalp 5 points
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Here is how my tesla position looks like in small 20K account. Its mess :)
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metaller wrote: 07 Jul 2017 06:34
Beretta wrote: 06 Jul 2017 16:34 also sold /6E 1.135 puts
А почему-бы вместо это не купить сам /6E ? Options on stock я понимаю. А вот options on futures ? Это для leverage on leverage или для чего ?
у меня так остается short delta, i.e. my assumption about the euro has not changed. All I am hoping to happen is for euro to go by about point lower (to get to my short strike). I am making money both on selling puts and selling euros. It is like covered calls but backwards :). Anyway if I am wrong at least I will. make money on puts (well, I will keep rolling futures and selling puts going forward if I am wrong).
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Closed some more straight oil at 1.15 profit on each. Now slightly long oil, oil went down by about 10% this week, so it was fine to take shorts off and get long (via some short puts); got long cacao @ avg 1880, got long gold @ avg 1209.5 and also sold short 1225/1235 spreads; got long nat gas @ 2.856. And of course shorted S&P and Nasdaq way too early with now avg 2425 and 564; short puts help.

Bot covered NUGT, sold July EWZ 34 straddle for 1.53, sold July IC in WYNN - 122/128/138/144 for 1.70; closed AMZN IC, closed short call spread in COST.

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venumpro wrote: 07 Jul 2017 17:27 Placed /ES sell order above the market @ 2,425. Just a day trade. Want to scalp 5 points
Closed @ 2,423 Nonevent. Made 2 points
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Beretta wrote: 07 Jul 2017 20:21
metaller wrote: 07 Jul 2017 06:34
Beretta wrote: 06 Jul 2017 16:34 also sold /6E 1.135 puts
А почему-бы вместо это не купить сам /6E ? Options on stock я понимаю. А вот options on futures ? Это для leverage on leverage или для чего ?
у меня так остается short delta, i.e. my assumption about the euro has not changed. All I am hoping to happen is for euro to go by about point lower (to get to my short strike). I am making money both on selling puts and selling euros. It is like covered calls but backwards :). Anyway if I am wrong at least I will. make money on puts (well, I will keep rolling futures and selling puts going forward if I am wrong).
Честно говоря я так и не понял чем торговля options on futures лучше чем торговля futures ... Спишем на недостаток моего финансового образования :(
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metaller wrote: 08 Jul 2017 08:15 Честно говоря я так и не понял чем торговля options on futures лучше чем торговля futures ... Спишем на недостаток моего финансового образования :(
A кто говорит про лучше/хуже? Some future you scalp, in some futures you take a position. Oil futures for instance have one of the best options trading - they are very liquid, premium is good, and buying power is low (well, originally, span margining will take place eventually, just keep it in mind). Я не очень люблю pairs trades, не мое, не очень люблю futures spreads (i.e. future sold this month and future bought next month), даже если они забирают меньше buying power.

Как я вижу, каждый develops his/her own trading style. Nothing is wrong with it as long as you make money.
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metaller wrote: 08 Jul 2017 08:15
Beretta wrote: 07 Jul 2017 20:21
metaller wrote: 07 Jul 2017 06:34
Beretta wrote: 06 Jul 2017 16:34 also sold /6E 1.135 puts
А почему-бы вместо это не купить сам /6E ? Options on stock я понимаю. А вот options on futures ? Это для leverage on leverage или для чего ?
у меня так остается short delta, i.e. my assumption about the euro has not changed. All I am hoping to happen is for euro to go by about point lower (to get to my short strike). I am making money both on selling puts and selling euros. It is like covered calls but backwards :). Anyway if I am wrong at least I will. make money on puts (well, I will keep rolling futures and selling puts going forward if I am wrong).
Честно говоря я так и не понял чем торговля options on futures лучше чем торговля futures ... Спишем на недостаток моего финансового образования :(
I think you can make significantly more money trading futures. But you have to be really good in picking right direction.

I suck at picking direction and if I traded futures I would be out of business long time ago. Options, on the other hand, allow you to make money without being directionally right. I think this is the only difference.

I was short overall market and Nasdaq specifically all year. It is up 15% YTD. Despite being directionally wrong, my portfolio is up more than that. I guess options fit me much better than futures.

If you consistently make $$$$ with futures, stick with it. Don't even look at options
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Beretta wrote: 08 Jul 2017 15:08
metaller wrote: 08 Jul 2017 08:15 Честно говоря я так и не понял чем торговля options on futures лучше чем торговля futures ... Спишем на недостаток моего финансового образования :(
A кто говорит про лучше/хуже? Some future you scalp, in some futures you take a position. Oil futures for instance have one of the best options trading - they are very liquid, premium is good, and buying power is low (well, originally, span margining will take place eventually, just keep it in mind). Я не очень люблю pairs trades, не мое, не очень люблю futures spreads (i.e. future sold this month and future bought next month), даже если они забирают меньше buying power.

Как я вижу, каждый develops his/her own trading style. Nothing is wrong with it as long as you make money.
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venumpro wrote: 08 Jul 2017 15:59 Options, on the other hand, allow you to make money without being directionally right.
В теории да. На практике у меня почему-то подавляющее большинство option trades are loosers.
venumpro wrote: 08 Jul 2017 15:59 If you consistently make $$$$ with futures, stick with it. Don't even look at options
Thanks for advise !
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venumpro wrote: 07 Jul 2017 14:50 Sold July TSLA 342.5/347.5 - 280/270 IC @ 1.73 credit.
This iron condor trades for 1.09 today. Placed closed order at 1.00
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venumpro wrote: 06 Jul 2017 19:02
venumpro wrote: 06 Jul 2017 18:55 TSLA is definitely in play. Loading up.

Bought July 285/280/270 broken wing butterflies @ .50 credit. Cheap trade with exceptionally high probability of success. Did it in size
Its hard to get filled in TSLA today. Did more of same @ .44 credit
Closed all butterflies @ .10 Turned out to be good trade
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Cannot find anything interesting to do. Nothing is happening.

Sold July 150 puts in Cost @ 1.03
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30 trades today, mostly close.
Closed Costco short calls, X IC, put spread in AMZN. All worthless. Closed NVDA bwb and short put spread, also worthless,
Open - bought cotton, more cacao, and sugar. Also some ANF stock. Did not add and did not close any ES and NQ.

Still long oil, long gold, and short euro. Neutral on bonds.


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че там у нас с американской ауто-индустри?
говорят входит в пике? есть идеи? :kofe:
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ie wrote: 10 Jul 2017 22:27 че там у нас с американской ауто-индустри?
говорят входит в пике? есть идеи? :kofe:
I cannot find auto stock with liquid options market. If I did, I would have sold puts or jade lizards. Another alternative would strangled with puts closer to price than calls
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Beretta wrote: 10 Jul 2017 22:25
Still long oil, long gold, and short euro. Neutral on bonds.
Funny. I am tiny short USO (9 straddle), long XOP, long GDX and GLD, long bonds, short financials, and obviously short QQQ and SPY, and long IWM. Mess :)
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15 puts in SNAP (Aug) is 1.07. Interesting
If stock is down tomorrow, will likely sell one.

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