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[NEVA]

Being a graduate of a "similar institution" is a definite plus for hiring, on any level.

That's exactly what I was talking about the whole time. I'm so glad you understand.

[NEVA]

We don't even disagree on facts much.

We don't disagree. We are just talking about two entirely different things. I assert that studying at a community college can prevent you from obtaining certain types of jobs with certain types of employers. You, on the other hand, point out that most employers will still be open to such people. And you are entirely correct. But that doesn't change my assertion one bit - these are two different subsets of employers. So I repeat -

By going to community college you could potentially preclude yourself from obtaining certain types of jobs with certain employers in the future. You will still, in all likelihood, be perfectly employable elsewhere, just not with the companies I've mentioned. Now, the question really is: Are you willing to possibly sacrifice this subset of potential employers in exchange for the savings that community college has to offer?
That's really the choice here and that's what I was trying to convey to the author of the topic.

[Milasha]

By going to community college you could potentially preclude yourself from obtaining certain types of jobs with certain employers in the future. You will still, in all likelihood, be perfectly employable elsewhere, just not with the companies I've mentioned.

Couldn't say it better myself

Now, the question really is: Are you willing to possibly sacrifice this subset of potential employers in exchange for the savings that community college has to offer?
That's really the choice here and that's what I was trying to convey to the author of the topic.

You are right. Small subset, I would add. And not nesessarily all that desirable.
In my case, I chose to go distance learning route, a move that would certainly limit my access to the type of employers you are talking about (and then some). You can't move forward by trying to foresee all possible biases your interviewer might have, be it racial, social or any other. I am certain that my regionally accredited CPA-qualifying DL degree will open more doors for me than it will close. Same is true about CCs, arguably the best and most socially responsible segment of American education.

[Milasha]

Being a graduate of a "similar institution" is a definite plus for hiring, on any level.

That's exactly what I was talking about the whole time. I'm so glad you understand.

Community colleges are not that inferior as an employment choice. Just DIFFERENT.

[NEVA]

You are right. Small subset, I would add. And not nesessarily all that desirable.

To whom how. (c) unknown.

In my case, I chose to go distance learning route, a move that would certainly limit my access to the type of employers you are talking about (and then some). You can't move forward by trying to foresee all possible biases your interviewer might have, be it racial, social or any other.

I disagree. I think that any plan, be it financial, educational, or any other, should try to forsee, factor in, and preferably avoid, as many potential problems/biases/etc. as possible. That's the whole point of planning, in my opinion.

I am certain that my regionally accredited CPA-qualifying DL degree will open more doors for me than it will close.

I sincerely hope so.

[DanielMa]

Milasha and NEVA are just missing each other's points.

NEVA is saying that there are employers that care very much about educational credentials of their employees. Perhaps less than 5% of the population works for such employers. But these employers are some of the biggest names in the economy and working for them is not only financially rewarding but also carries immense prestige and gives you a lot other opportunities later on in life. For NEVA, the goal should be to work in one of those places.

Milasha just wants to get a job that pays. For her purposes, the prestige of the employer is not that important. Community Colleges are perfect for Milasha.

[Milasha]

Milasha and NEVA are just missing each other's points.

NEVA is saying that there are employers that care very much about educational credentials of their employees. Perhaps less than 5% of the population works for such employers. But these employers are some of the biggest names in the economy and working for them is not only financially rewarding but also carries immense prestige and gives you a lot other opportunities later on in life. For NEVA, the goal should be to work in one of those places.

Yes.

Milasha just wants to get a job that pays. For her purposes, the prestige of the employer is not that important. Community Colleges are perfect for Milasha.

Working for such places can also be very rewarding, can it not? Besides, suppose someone wants to become a CC president (or a CC system chansellor). Those are definitely high prestige and selective positions.
P.S. I do think that "the prestige of the employer is not that important", just like the kind of car you drive is not that important.

[Primavera]

I am certain that my regionally accredited CPA-qualifying DL degree will open more doors for me than it will close.

I wish you luck. Friend of mine got an MBA (not online) and still could find a decent job in Florida. You could find a job in a small firm but they have to sponsor you for the license. In the regular school you pay not only for education but also for future job placement because some companies hire people without experience only at sertain campuses.

Daniel, I agree with you 100%. Also those employers are located in big cities, that is why there are lots of those companies if you live there.

[Milasha]

You are right. Small subset, I would add. And not nesessarily all that desirable.

To whom how. (c) unknown.

For whom how.

In my case, I chose to go distance learning route, a move that would certainly limit my access to the type of employers you are talking about (and then some). You can't move forward by trying to foresee all possible biases your interviewer might have, be it racial, social or any other.

I disagree. I think that any plan, be it financial, educational, or any other, should try to forsee, factor in, and preferably avoid, as many potential problems/biases/etc. as possible. That's the whole point of planning, in my opinion.

You don't control the other people's irrational, do you? Suppose the next interviewer for a very lucrative position rejects you because he (thinks that he) got ripped off by your former employer or was rejected by Harvard and thus dislikes Top-10 graduates. Then what?
Besides, you pay for any choices you make, be it in money, time, health, personal time...

I am certain that my regionally accredited CPA-qualifying DL degree will open more doors for me than it will close.

I sincerely hope so.

Thank you.

[Milasha]

I am certain that my regionally accredited CPA-qualifying DL degree will open more doors for me than it will close.

I wish you luck. Friend of mine got an MBA (not online) and still could find a decent job in Florida. You could find a job in a small firm but they have to sponsor you for the license. In the regular school you pay not only for education but also for future job placement because some companies hire people without experience only at sertain campuses.

I know that. Was not an option for boring financial reasons.

PS You can well sponsor yourself for the license. IIt's not THAT expensive.

[DanielMa]

Working for such places can also be very rewarding, can it not? Besides, suppose someone wants to become a CC president (or a CC system chansellor). Those are definitely high prestige and selective positions.

Тhat's where you and NEVA differ. NEVA's definition of reward includes working at prestigeous places and not being a president of CC.

[Milasha]

Working for such places can also be very rewarding, can it not? Besides, suppose someone wants to become a CC president (or a CC system chansellor). Those are definitely high prestige and selective positions.

Тhat's where you and NEVA differ. NEVA's definition of reward includes working at prestigeous places and not being a president of CC.

NEVA didn't say that. If that's really her definition, then yeah, we differ.

[NEVA]

Тhat's where you and NEVA differ. NEVA's definition of reward includes working at prestigeous places and not being a president of CC.

Not necessarily, Daniel. I wasn't thinking about myself at all. I always try to look at the problem from the standpoint of the person asking. Here the person asking is at the very beginning of her educational and career ladder. And strategically I believe that it is unwise to start one's education by excluding any potential employment opportunities, which is what going to a cc would accomplish. I think the best strategy would be to maximize the opportunities available to you. If one has no choice, clearly going to cc is better than not going anywhere. However, if going to a regular college is a viable option, I think that route would be preferable. Imho.

[Primavera]

PS You can well sponsor yourself for the license. IIt's not THAT expensive.

It's not money, it's a work experience requirement that you must work 2 years or some number of hours under CPA and he/she has to write a recommendation for you (special form) without that you don't get a license. You don't need that to take the exam, The work experience requirement is in the most of states, unless you don't have it in Florida.

[LapkaL]

Хорошо, когда есть и мозги, и деньги на частный университет. Но и для студентов СС с мозгами не так все мрачно, шанс в приличную компанию попасть все же есть, хотя надо сильно постараться.
У меня два свежих примера.
Пример #1.
2 года СС - трансфер UC Berkeley - intership и последующий job offer в JP Morgan, работа в JP Morgan.
Пример #2.
2 года СС - трансфер UC Berkeley - intership и последующий job offer JP Morgan, после этого еще несколько заманчивых предложений, в том числе подписанный job offer в Goldman Sachs.